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video grabbed from gellner's website

the original text that made me aware of kurt gellner:

from the pks seminar "the life and works of viktor schauberger" 

Date: 08-09 June 2002

Location: PKS Villa, Bad Ischl, Austria

Kurt Gellner (Craftsman and musician)

- Video demonstration of a Vortex Wood Burning Stove he designed.

Rouva Schauberger on Walterin, Viktor Schaubergerin pojan, leski. Hän asuu yhä perheen kodissa Bad Ischlissä, pohjoisessa Itävallassa. Jokaisella tapaamiskerrallamme hänellä oli päällään perinteiset itävaltalaiset vaatteet, hyvin istuva räätälöity jakku ja dirndl-hame. Vaikka hän on alle 150 senttiä pitkä, hänellä on vaikuttava ilmestys ja hän on hyvin älykäs. Hän puhuu jonkin verran englantia, paremmin kuin minä saksaa, joten keskustelumme käytiin enimmäkseen englanniksi. Hänellä oli kuitenkin huolenaiheenaan se, ettei hän osaisi ilmaista itseään hyvin käyttämällä englantia, joten seurassamme oli tapaamisillamme myös tulkki. Keskustelumme aikaan hän oli 89-vuotias.

Kiitos että suostuit puhumaan minulle muistikuvistasi Viktor Schaubergeristä.

- Goethe puhui todellisuuden ja runouden erosta. Suuri runo voi kummuta todellisuuden pienestä siemenkodasta, ytimestä. Haluan kertoa todellisesta Viktor Schaubergeristä sellaisena kuin minä hänet tunsin. Nykyään ei ole enää monta ihmistä elossa jotka tunsivat oikean Viktor Schaubergerin.

- Tunsin Viktorin vain lyhyen ajan, vuodesta 1952 siihen saakka kunnes hän kuoli vuonna 1958. En viettänyt paljoakaan aikaa Viktorin kanssa. Walter ja minä asuimme Bad Ischlissa, hän asui Linzissä.

- Hän oli yksi merkittävimpiä 1900-luvulla eläneitä ihmisiä. Mutta siihen aikaan kun opin tuntemaan hänet, hän oli hyvin pettynyt moniin asioihin. Mikään ei muuttunut hänen elämänsä aikana;. hänen ideansa kiehtoivat monia, mutta harvat ihmiset pystyivät toteuttamaan ne käytännössä.

Schauberger-perheellä on pitkä traditio työskentelystä metsissä. Tekeekö kukaan perheen jäsenistä enää työtä metsien parissa?

- Viktor oli viimeinen. Hän oli varttunut Linzin pohjoisosassa, alueella joka on alkuperäistä metsää vielä nytkin. Tämä on harvinaista Itävallassa näinä päivinä. Hän oli sotilaana neljä vuotta ensimmäisessä maailmansodassa. Hän taisteli Venäjällä, Italiassa, Serbiassa ja Ranskassa, ja haavoittui. Sodan jälkeen hän työskenteli luonnonvaraisissa metsissä vuoteen 1924, sen jälkeen hänen uransa metsänhoitajana päättyi. Tämän jälkeen hän rakensi tukki-kouruja (log-flume) (hänen ensimmäinen keksintönsä, joka toi hänet laajemman yleisön tietoisuuteen), hänet kutsuttiin työskentelemään Wieniin. Hän oli viimeinen perheestään joka työskenteli metsissä. Nykyään kukaan ei tee sellaista työtä. Enää ei metsästetä ja kukaan ei myöskään työskentele enää luonnonvaraisissa metsissä.

Mistä Walter ja Viktor puhuivat?

Walter sanoi "Auta luontoa, auta puita. Meillä on pakko olla paljon enemmän puita, enemmän metsiä. Metsien ensimmäisenä tehtävänä on tuottaa vettä. Mitä me voimme tehdä luonnon hyväksi, mitä me voimme tehdä puiden hyväksi, ja mitä voimme tehdä puustolle ja vedelle kokonaisuutena?" Tästä hän aina puhui.

Tämä oli merkittävän teollisuuskasvunaikaa, niin kutsuttua saksalaisen sodanjälkeisen talousihmeen aikaa. Kaiken piti olla suurempaa ja parempaa. Viktor ja Walter olivat sitä mieltä, ettei suurempi ja parempi ole aina hyvästä. He sanoivat, että meidän pitää katsoa sinne, mihin asiat keskittyvät, mikä on olennaisinta, mikä on tärkeintä kaikelle elämälle. Viktorille ja Walterille tämä oli tärkein asia. Kuinka he pystyisivät saamaan tämän idean viestitettyä niin, että ihmiset pystyisivät ymmärtämään sen.

Wanted to make a map of places to visit, in order to better realize how far away these places and people are. Being from Finland, the obvious closest would be going to Göteborg, Sweden.

Die Seminarreihe ist in Ausarbeitung. 

Bereits fixiert: "Wasser-Qualitäten" am 19. und 20. Mai 2001.

Das nächste PKS-Seminar "Wasser-Qualitäten" findet am Wochenende 19./20. Mai 2001 am Sitz der PKS in Engleithen bei Bad Ischl statt.

PKS SEMINAR

THE LIFE AND WORKS OF VIKTOR SCHAUBERGER

Date:        08-09 June 2002
Location:     PKS Villa, Bad Ischl, Austria
Speakers:    Callum Coats (main speaker)

– Various topics on the works of Viktor Schauberger (VS)

Richard Feierabend:
- Research into German flying saucer project.
- How he obtained documents and prototypes from Karl Gerchsheimer.

Secrets of water and vortex, 20-21 May 2006

Curt Hallberg (Malmö-group, Sweden)
• Experiences with the water vortexers
• Some ideas of vortex lift
• Power generation with applicated Repulsin theory.
http://www.iet-community.org

John Wilkes (Virbela Institute for Rhythm Research, UK)
• Development of the Flowform Method - which rhythm can be generated in streaming water
• Applications of the Flowform - aesthetically and also functionally in relation to biological purification, farming, food processing, therapy
http://www.anth.org.uk/virbelaflowforms

Jane Cobbald (UK distributor of the copper garden tools, author of "The Spiral Dance", England)
• The three levels of life energy: a look at the life and work of Viktor Schauberger
http://www.implementations.co.uk

Klaus Rauber (Implosion research group, Germany)
• experiences with a repulsine-model
• the spiral tube and the hyperbolic cone
http://www.implosion-ev.de

Program: Saturday, 20th May, 9.15 a.m. - Sunday, 21th May, about 16.00 p.m.
Registration: Saturday from 8.30 a.m.
Location: PKS-Villa, Bad Ischl
Seminar fee: EUR 165,-- (Students and retired persons: EUR 135,--)

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• Copper is known to deter slugs and snails

• The tools are hard-wearing and will last for years

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• Copper causes less friction than iron or steel, so the soil slides off our tools

About the tools

Our tools are hand-made in Austria by craftsman coppersmiths. The blades are made of bronze, an alloy of copper and tin, and then hand-beaten to harden them. Other parts are made of brass and other copper alloys. The staffs are made of European hardwoods - ash, beech and lime. The longer tools are European length - longer than we are used to in Britain, allowing a comfortable, upright working posture. The resulting tools are hardwearing, practical and beautiful.

About this site

We sell the tools at garden shows and other events around the U.K. To check if we will be at an event near you, have a look at our Events Diary.

On the Viktor Schauberger page, you can find out about the Austrian inventor whose work inspired the development of our tools, and how to find out more about his life and work.

As copper is not the usual choice of metal for garden implements you may wish to read more about it on the Copper page.

The Results page contains a sample of the comments from our feedback folder. It also has some extracts from our garden diary of 2001, our first year of using the tools.

One startling result that we found, was that plants cultivated with our tools are less attractive to slugs and snails. We have investigated what may be the reason for this on the Slugs and Snails page

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Walter said help "Nature, help the trees. We have to have many more trees, more woodland. The first task for the woodland is to bring the water into existence."

Frau Schauberger is the widow of Walter, Viktor Schauberger’s son. She still lives in the family home in Bad Ischl, upper Austria. Each time I saw her she was wearing the traditional Austrian clothes, the close fitting tailored jacket and a dirndl skirt. Although she is less than five feet tall, she has a powerful presence and shows a sharp intelligence. She speaks some English, more than my German, so our conversation was mainly in English. She was concerned that she would not be able to express herself well in English, so at each meeting we had an interpreter sitting with us. At the time of our conversation, she was 89 years old.

This clip is from the documentary  "Les Maîtres de l'Eau"  which I found at:-
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/firefly/eau/

Please click download instead of play

Transcript:

...For certain scientists, research on water should go farther than problems about pollution.  Documentary by Frantz Fitzke (Germany 2001 - 41mn) ZDF. Water which, in ancient civilizations and religions, was capable of miracles, has now become a trivial resource. Worse, science and technique do not consider its globality anymore, but only it's formula H2O. Some researchers have nevertheless launched original works, like Viktor Schauberger, considered as the father of modern research in this matter. He notably developed a theory along which water does not flow in straight lines, but in whirlpools, un a movement that ressembles that of a corkscrew. His revolutionary ideas inspired real applications. His students are for example working on new types of conducts, more reliable analysis processes, and better recycling systems. He is today followed and supported in his unorthodox methods by academics finally convinced than water is more than <gets cut>more than a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen. ..."

 

 

Unter den Forschern und Wasserbehandlern, die in dieser Dokumentation vorgestellt werden, befinden sich Alexander Lauterwasser, Wolfram Schwenk, Otmar Grober und Roland Plocher. Als roter Wasser-Faden ziehen sich die Erkenntnisse von Viktor Schauberger durch den Film. Einer der Drehort war die PKS, die Pythagoras Kepler Schule in Bad Ischl. U. a. wird unser PKS-Seminarbetrieb gezeigt, im vorliegenden Fall der Wasser-Workshop mit der Experimentierwerkstatt Wien vom Sommer 2001. Auch der "Verein für Implosionsforschung" (Herausgeber der Zeitschrift "Implosion") und seine Produktion von Spiral-Wirbelrohren werden vorgestellt, außerdem ein in dessen Werkstatt hergestellter hyperbolischer Schauberger-Trichter. Durch den Einsatz dieses Trichters wurde ein trüber Teich eines Golfplatzes innerhalb kurzer Zeit algenfrei - ganz ohne Chemie, nur durch die Verwirbelung des zulaufenden Wassers im Hyperbolischen Trichter.

It was a Swedish engineer and anthroposophist, Olof Alexandersson, who wrote the first popular introduction to the radical ideas of Viktor Schauberger. I came across this attractive little book in 1979 and had it translated into English. Living Water is now in its eighth printing and has inspired many to go on to Callum Coats' in-depth study of Schauberger's ideas, Living Energies, which was published in 1996. My friendship with Callum goes back to 1981 when he confided in me his wish to write a definitive work on Viktor Schauberger. Callum had met Viktor's son, Walter Schauberger, in 1977 and was to spend three years studying with Walter at his Pythogoras-Keppler System Institute in Lauffen, in the Saltzkammergut near Salzburg. During that time, Callum was given access to all Viktor's writings.
Viktor Schauberger did not start seriously to write about his ideas and his discoveries until the age of 44, when he acquired a distinguished sponsor in Professor Philipp Forchheimer. As Callum describes later in this volume, Forchheimer, a world famous hydrologist, had been asked by the Austrian Government to report on Schauberger's controversial log flumes, which transported large amounts of timber from inaccessible locations without damage. He was so impressed with Schauberger's discovereies that he asked him to write a paper which was published in 1930 in Die Wasserwirtschaft , the Austrian Journal of Hydrology. This paper attracted the attention of the President of the Austrian Academy of Science, Professor Wilhelm Exner, and resulted in a commission to write a more detailed study of his theories for that same magazine under the title Temperature and the Movement of Water.
Schauberger's ideas completely flew in the face of conventional ideas of hydrology and water management and, as a result, gained him many enemies in scientific circles. The reason Viktor developed the strong feelings about orthodox scientific research that you will read in this and subsequent volumes was partly to defend himself from their attacks, and partly out of his despair at witnessing the ongoing destruction of the natural environment by their blind and uncaring technologies. It was this despair that motivated him to write his only book, Our Senseless Toil - the Cause of the World Crisis . It was published at a time of severe depression ,when many were worried about the future.
After Forchheimer died, Schauberger found another ally in Professor Werner Zimmermann who encouraged Viktor in 1935-1936 to write about the damage being wrought to the great rivers, the Rhine and the Danube, in a small 'new thought' magazine Tau . After Schauberger's death, two magazines published further collections of Schauberger's writings: Implosion was started by a student and collaborator of Viktor's, and published a number of his articles in the 1960s. Mensch und Technik in the 1970s published articles by and about Viktor Schauberger for the more free-thinking scientiific community.
Callum Coats has skilfully woven together these articles, together with correspondence with othere scientists, friends and officials of one kind or another, into a fascinating tapestry which gives a true and very readable account of Schauberger's impassioned campaign to alert the world to the dangers of the prevailing scientific dogma. Unfortunately, not much has changed, and Schauberger's vision of how humanity could work cooperatively with Nature is perhaps more relevant than ever.
Callum arranged this massive amount of material into a large volume, Eco-Technology. In considering this for publication, we realised that it would be much more accessible in several volumes, arranged by theme. This first one, The Water Wizard, is devoted to Schauberger's ideas about water and rivers. The second, Nature as Teacher, concerns the wider implications of his ideas on water and energy. The third, The Fertile Earth, describes the way trees transform energy, and processes of fertilisation of the soil . The final volume, The Energy Revolution , gathers together the discussion and description of Schauberger's appliances for purifying and energising water and for producing vast amounts of virtually free energy. Together with Living Energies, the Eco-technology series give a complete account of the vision and genius of one of the founders of the present ecological movement, and are an inspiration for all those who wish to see our precious Earth saved from extinction by short-sightedness and greed, and the emergence of a new partnership with bountiful Nature.

from: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/viktorschaubergergroup/files/

PKS SEMINAR

THE LIFE AND WORKS OF VIKTOR SCHAUBERGER

Date: 08-09 June 2002

Location: PKS Villa, Bad Ischl, Austria

http://members.aon.at/pks.or.at/Mystery-Stellungnahme_Schauberger-Nachlassverwaltung.html

MYSTERY

Kommentar der Schauberger-Nachlassverwaltung

based on Viktor and Walter Schauberger
"Gesellschaft zur Förderung naturgemäßer Technik"

This document is based on http://www.sulis-health.co.uk/vs/links.shtml

Implementing Schauberger's Vision

A listing of groups and individuals working on reseach
and development inspired by Schauberger's work.