Olof Alexandersson

Viktor Schaubergerin suomenkielinen tilanne

Valmistellessani Viktor Schaubergeristä kertovaa artikkelia päätin katsoa googlesta suomenkielisiltä sivuilta mainintoja. Valitettavasti mitään kovin varteenotettavaa ei löytynyt, mutta listaan kuitenkin linkkejä ja lainauksia tässä vähän alempana. Viktor Schaubergerin ajatuksista ja elämästä kertovat lehtiartikkelit ja kirjamaininnat ovat erittäin harvinaisia. Tässä olisi pienoinen lista lehdistä ja kirjoista jotka mainitsevat Viktor Schaubergerin - suomeksi.


lehdet:

Keskustelu Rouva Ingeborg Schaubergerin kanssa

Rouva Schauberger on Walterin, Viktor Schaubergerin pojan, leski. Hän asuu yhä perheen kodissa Bad Ischlissä, pohjoisessa Itävallassa. Jokaisella tapaamiskerrallamme hänellä oli päällään perinteiset itävaltalaiset vaatteet, hyvin istuva räätälöity jakku ja dirndl-hame. Vaikka hän on alle 150 senttiä pitkä, hänellä on vaikuttava ilmestys ja hän on hyvin älykäs. Hän puhuu jonkin verran englantia, paremmin kuin minä saksaa, joten keskustelumme käytiin enimmäkseen englanniksi. Hänellä oli kuitenkin huolenaiheenaan se, ettei hän osaisi ilmaista itseään hyvin käyttämällä englantia, joten seurassamme oli tapaamisillamme myös tulkki. Keskustelumme aikaan hän oli 89-vuotias.

Kiitos että suostuit puhumaan minulle muistikuvistasi Viktor Schaubergeristä.

- Goethe puhui todellisuuden ja runouden erosta. Suuri runo voi kummuta todellisuuden pienestä siemenkodasta, ytimestä. Haluan kertoa todellisesta Viktor Schaubergeristä sellaisena kuin minä hänet tunsin. Nykyään ei ole enää monta ihmistä elossa jotka tunsivat oikean Viktor Schaubergerin.

- Tunsin Viktorin vain lyhyen ajan, vuodesta 1952 siihen saakka kunnes hän kuoli vuonna 1958. En viettänyt paljoakaan aikaa Viktorin kanssa. Walter ja minä asuimme Bad Ischlissa, hän asui Linzissä.

- Hän oli yksi merkittävimpiä 1900-luvulla eläneitä ihmisiä. Mutta siihen aikaan kun opin tuntemaan hänet, hän oli hyvin pettynyt moniin asioihin. Mikään ei muuttunut hänen elämänsä aikana;. hänen ideansa kiehtoivat monia, mutta harvat ihmiset pystyivät toteuttamaan ne käytännössä.

Schauberger-perheellä on pitkä traditio työskentelystä metsissä. Tekeekö kukaan perheen jäsenistä enää työtä metsien parissa?

- Viktor oli viimeinen. Hän oli varttunut Linzin pohjoisosassa, alueella joka on alkuperäistä metsää vielä nytkin. Tämä on harvinaista Itävallassa näinä päivinä. Hän oli sotilaana neljä vuotta ensimmäisessä maailmansodassa. Hän taisteli Venäjällä, Italiassa, Serbiassa ja Ranskassa, ja haavoittui. Sodan jälkeen hän työskenteli luonnonvaraisissa metsissä vuoteen 1924, sen jälkeen hänen uransa metsänhoitajana päättyi. Tämän jälkeen hän rakensi tukki-kouruja (log-flume) (hänen ensimmäinen keksintönsä, joka toi hänet laajemman yleisön tietoisuuteen), hänet kutsuttiin työskentelemään Wieniin. Hän oli viimeinen perheestään joka työskenteli metsissä. Nykyään kukaan ei tee sellaista työtä. Enää ei metsästetä ja kukaan ei myöskään työskentele enää luonnonvaraisissa metsissä.

Mistä Walter ja Viktor puhuivat?

Walter sanoi "Auta luontoa, auta puita. Meillä on pakko olla paljon enemmän puita, enemmän metsiä. Metsien ensimmäisenä tehtävänä on tuottaa vettä. Mitä me voimme tehdä luonnon hyväksi, mitä me voimme tehdä puiden hyväksi, ja mitä voimme tehdä puustolle ja vedelle kokonaisuutena?" Tästä hän aina puhui.

Tämä oli merkittävän teollisuuskasvunaikaa, niin kutsuttua saksalaisen sodanjälkeisen talousihmeen aikaa. Kaiken piti olla suurempaa ja parempaa. Viktor ja Walter olivat sitä mieltä, ettei suurempi ja parempi ole aina hyvästä. He sanoivat, että meidän pitää katsoa sinne, mihin asiat keskittyvät, mikä on olennaisinta, mikä on tärkeintä kaikelle elämälle. Viktorille ja Walterille tämä oli tärkein asia. Kuinka he pystyisivät saamaan tämän idean viestitettyä niin, että ihmiset pystyisivät ymmärtämään sen.

Kompendier av eller om Schauberger

http://home.swipnet.se/jens_katrin/Schauberger/Sch_docs.html


Denna sida är till för alla de som är verkligt intresserade av Viktor Schauberger och vill ha mer material. Eftersom materialet är ganska omfattande och det blir dyrt och besvärligt att kopiera och skicka allt per papper (dvs. det gamla goda sättet.), så har jag beslutat att försöka få upp så mycket av det material jag kan komma över upp på denna sida.

Materialet

Tack vare Morgan Persson kan jag erbjuda sex mycket bra kompendier. Jag hoppas att själv kunna bidra med mer material i framtiden.

Viktor Schauberger - possibly the most forward-thinking scientist of this century?

(this seems to be a "lost" website) 

http://web.archive.org/web/19991008190328/http://ourworld.compuserve.com...

 

Viktor Schauberger -
possibly the most forward-thinking scientist
of this century?

Viktor Schauberger was the inventor of the first
man-made vortex powered "flying saucer"!
He also realised by observation what Cartesian Reductionist
deduction couldn't... that moving fluids can generate energy
by reducing entropy.
His motto was "understand nature, and then copy nature" He was known as the 'Water Wizard'.
Alongside Nicola Tesla and Wilhelm Reich,
Schauberger is one of that distingushed company of pioneers whose
work is so unprofitable, so contrary to the perceived norm of
'profit at any cost', that their major works are bought up
and shelved indefinately.



Here is his story...
Born towards the end of the nineteenth century in Austria, Schauberger's
teacher was the natural world itself. In forests, alongside rivers, he studied
the life-enhancing energy, which manifests in water or air as vortices.

"Prevailing technology uses the wrong forms of motion. It is based on
entropy - on motions which nature uses to break down and scatter
materials. However, Nature uses a different type of motion for creating
order and new growth. The prevailing explosion-based technology -
fuel burning and atom splitting - fills the world with expanding,
heat-generating centrifugal motion," he warned.

Energy production, he believed, could instead use inward-moving,
cold-generating centripetal motion, the same that nature employs to build
and enliven substances. Even hydro-electric power plants, Schauberger
said, use a destructive motion - they pressure water and chop it through
turbines. The result is 'dead water'. He built suction turbines which
enliven and invigorate, resulting in clean, life-giving water downstream.

Schauberger produced electrical power from a unique suction turbine by
implosion principles, and later was pressured into developing a
propulsion system using the same principles applied to air.

of flying saucers and nazi imprisonment...

Hitler came to power and Schauberger's experiments had 
started to attract attention. After hearing about Schauberger's
discoveries, Hitler threatened to hang Schauberger and
his entire family if he did not co-operate with Nazi plans.
Hitler wanted Schauberger to supervise the building of a
new flying craft which levitated without burning any fuel.
Because of the war, the Third Reich was desperate for
new technological aid, but Schauberger did not want to give
the Third Reich any technological advantages!
He went to work as ordered, but deliberately took a great
deal of time over everything, hoping to foil Hitler that way...

The idea of a new type of flying craft was based on Schauberger's
discovery, made a few years earlier, of how to develop a low-pressure
zone at the atomic level. He had actually achieved this in a laboratory,
when his prototype whirled air or water 'radically and axially' at a falling
temperature. Schauberger referred to the resulting force as 'diamagnetic
levitation power'. He emphasised that nature already successfully used
this direct, or 'reactionary', suction force, within weather
generation, solar fusion stability etc.

Schauberger was given a team of scientists to help him with his work, and
he insisted that these be treated not as prisoners but as free men - even
though they were all technically prisoners of the Nazis. After their research
headquarters were bombed, they were all transferred to Leonstein and
there they perfected the "flying disc", powered by Schauberger's turbine
which rotated air into a twisting type of oscillation resulting in a build-up of
immense power causing levitation! Schauberger's prototype was
developed into a vehicle that could speed 15000m in 3 minutes and
fly in any direction at mach 3!

In what is now eerily reminiscent of current reportage of alien
spacecraft, the flying disc prototype, which rose and crashed
against the laboratory ceiling, glowed blue-green as it rose,
and left a silvery glow! (was this possibly ionised water vapour?)

At the end of the war, American military officers seized
everything in the laboratory and, seeing Schauberger as
a Nazi collaborator, put him into 'protective custody' for
six months.

The Munich publication, Da Neue Zeitalter, wrote in 1956 that "Viktor
Schauberger was the inventor and discoverer of the new motive
power, implosion, which, with the use of only air and water, generated light,
heat and motion". The publication noted that the first unmanned flying disc
was tested in 1945 near Prague, that it could hover motionless in the air
and could fly as fast backwards as forwards. This flying disc was reported
to have a diameter of 50 metres.

There is no doubt that Viktor Schauberger knew how to build a disc that
levitated. However, he had not, at the time of his imprisonment,
worked out how to 'apply the brakes', as all his test flying discs
eventually crashed.

on environmental concerns and selling one's soul...

After his imprisonment, Schauberger took up his research again.  He had 
lost his financial assets but he still thought he could help the world by turning
his inventive genius and insights to good use.

He felt bitter about the effects of chemicals and deforestation upon
agriculture. He noted that "the farmers work hand-in-hand with our
foresters. The blood of the earth constantly weakens and the productivity
of the soil decreases". When forests can no longer nurture water sources
which supply vitality, farmlands downstream cannot build up voltage
in the ground for keeping parasitic bacteria in balance, he observed.
Noticing that the soil dried out after being ploughed with iron ploughs,
he built copper plated ploughs. He continued to work on his agricultural
ideas for some time.

Then Schauberger was called to America, where, still thinking he could
do some good for the world, he was persuaded to provide a
team of scientists, military and government officials with
a record of everything he knew and to sign some contracts.
But eventually he became worried that his projects seemed
to have been left sitting on the shelf, and that no further
research was being done. He then discovered that in actual
fact he had signed the rights to his work away to an
industrial concern, and that this concern now retained power
over the use and development of his work. And clearly their
position was to do nothing to further Schauberger's research.
(One wonders if they are perhaps now working on some of
the ideas, particularly the levitating disc, in secret...)

By this stage, Viktor Schauberger was an old man, and
he died a despairing death, reportedly crying in the last
days of his life that he had lost everything and that he no
longer even owned himself.


Schauberger's legacy...our view

Now, 38 years after Schauberger's death, our planet is still in crisis.
Will humanity turn, as it no doubt should, to Viktor Schauberger's insights?


There are several aspects of Schauberger's work which encourage further
thought. Spinning objects, such as Tops, exhibit well known tendencies to
resist axial rotation, but neverthless, as energy is lost from the system,
chaotic impulses lead to precession, which occurs in a way reminiscent of
the decay of a musical note in a stretched string. From the Top's point of
view, its axis is unique and fixed - it is the universe that wobbles!
What happens if you entrain particles at near light speed in a closed loop,
and then rotate the whole structure? What happens if you then rotate that
system? and so on.

This problem has baffled me for ages, but by contemplating
Schauberger's insights (if I may call them that) I have realised the obvious,
that a vortex is a type of fluid gyroscope, and that a collapsing vortex's
axis does oscillate with increasing frequency until the liquid reverts to a
turbulent state, thereby losing as much energy as possible as fast as it
can. Coincidentally, chaos theory got a good break by considering
the stages of transition from laminar, ordered flow, to turbulence, in
liquids. Water is at maximum density at 4 degrees celcius, and
Schauberger's research indicates that at this same temperature
water has its best 'carrying, life giving' properties. At maximum
density, water obviously can carry the most, but what of the life
force? Since water should be a gas at room temperature (20 degrees
celcius) according to its molecular weight, it has long been
assumed that water 'polymerises', which assumption, unverifiable as
yet by direct obsevation, may account for many of its peculiar properties.

At 4 degrees, water is in its longest chain state, and thus ionic charges
have a chance to build up macroscopically as the long molecles entrain,
if the flow remains ordered or 'laminar'. On a sub-atomic level, this same
spin may have entrainment effects. What if the whole system became
aligned? Is it possible that all the kinetic energy present in a fluid might
be released as motion in a region? This might be analogous to the way light
behaves in a laser, but in this case the output would be thrust and suction at
opposite ends of the vortex.

I mentioned W Reich earlier, as his forbidden experiments into nuclear
radiation and life energy (for which he was indirectly gaoled) seem to point
to the startling conclusion that entopic energy in the cosmos is balanced
by an absorbing, patternmaking force, which can been seen as
information, or as life in the most general sense. If this were
to be so (and the idea is appearing more and more frequently
in current scientific literature), then not only would life be
inevitable throughout the universe, but our short term and
disastrous manipulation of the atom might find a long term solution
in the creation of 'nuclear neutralisation plants', which
would increase growth rates, precipitation and flowering around them.

A utopian fantasy? Perhaps... we will have to see.

This page was created by

Harry and Liz
in the interests of spreading the word!

Who are we? Musicians actually, but Harry's also a physics graduate....
to find out more, visit Curt Hallberg's brilliant Viktor Schauberger Site - this site has all the information that our site doesn't!
PKS was founded by Schauberger's son, the late Walter Schauberger and is the most direct information source about their work.
Professor Evert has developed Schauberger's technology further. This is his web site.
At Gateway Books They publish books about free energy and alternative science and health, about cosmic questions, conspiracies, spirituality and self empowerment.

link to a US bookshop where books on Schauberger can be ordered on-line
a new Schauberger's Water Vortex World site
Science Hobbyist site featuring sections on weird science, Vortex-L and more
an interesting page on vortexes and thermal dynamics etc
Australian Environmental Directory
Green Net Australia
Australia's Down to Earth site
...or visit the Environmental Search Engine!

Some information for this page was obtained from the following texts:

Eiser, Jonathon (Editor) 
SUPPRESSED INVENTION AND OTHER DISCOVERIES
- a very informative chapter on Schauberger, written by
Jeane Manning. Her 1996 book, The Coming Energy
Revolution
, also deals with Schauberger, as well as other
20th century inventors.

Auckland Institute of Technology Press, New Zealand

Alexandersson, Olaf
LIVING WATER: VICTOR SCHAUBERGER AND THE SECRETS OF NATURAL ENERGY
Turnstone Press Ltd, Wellington, Northamptonshire UK 1982

Baumgartiner, William
ENERGY EXTRACTION FROM THE VORTEX,
Proceedings of the International Symposium on New Energy,
Denver, USA, 1993

 

Sveriges Radio: Det Levande Vattnet

Sveriges Radio: Det Levande Vattnet – ett dokumentärprogram av Anders Bjurström om den österrikiske naturforskaren, vetenskapsmannen och filosofen Viktor Schauberger (1885-1958): «En 1900-talets Galilei». Programmet bygger på material samlat av den svenska forskaren Olof Alexandersson.

Jane Cobbald: Conversation with Frau Ingeborg Schauberger

http://www.implementations.co.uk/ the original is here

Walter said help "Nature, help the trees. We have to have many more trees, more woodland. The first task for the woodland is to bring the water into existence."

Frau Schauberger is the widow of Walter, Viktor Schauberger’s son. She still lives in the family home in Bad Ischl, upper Austria. Each time I saw her she was wearing the traditional Austrian clothes, the close fitting tailored jacket and a dirndl skirt. Although she is less than five feet tall, she has a powerful presence and shows a sharp intelligence. She speaks some English, more than my German, so our conversation was mainly in English. She was concerned that she would not be able to express herself well in English, so at each meeting we had an interpreter sitting with us. At the time of our conversation, she was 89 years old.

 

 

 

 

 

Repulsine replications?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/viktorschaubergergroup/message/1443   There are some attempts to build replicas! First there is Mr. Klaus Rauber and the group around him. Klaus Rauber is giving out the paper Implosion (in German) and also have some Implo-meetings. As far as I know they have not been very succesfull as the copper plates seems to bend in speeds around 8000 rpm. Then one person in Norway (Mr. Olav Uleberg) have built a replica. The exact outcome from these replicas is still unknown. Then of course there is the real thing: The original Repulsin that Richard Feierabend found in Texas. It is still in US. Regarding information on this machine I strongly recomend "The Living Water" by Mr. Olof Alexandersson where the German version is the best. Then Callum Coats books in general but especially "Energy Evolution". Reda these books before you got to the net as there is a lot of miss understanding and erratic information. Regards, //Curt

Bookstore - Viktor Schauberger, Living Water and Natural Harmonies

Mail-Order Service for the Orgone Biophysical Research Lab

among others: 

* LIVING WATER, Viktor Schauberger and the Secrets of Natural Energy, by OLOF ALEXANDERSSON.

* LIVING ENERGIES, Viktor Schauberger's Brilliant Work with Natural Energy Explained, by CALLUM COATS.

* Eco-Technology Series Volume 1 - THE WATER WIZARD: The Extraordinary Properties of Natural Water, by VIKTOR SCHAUBERGER, translated and edited by CALLUM COATS.

* Eco-Technology Series Volume 2 - NATURE AS TEACHER: New Principles in the Working of Nature, by VIKTOR SCHAUBERGER, translated and edited by CALLUM COATS.

* Eco-Technology Series Volume 3 - THE FERTILE EARTH: by VIKTOR SCHAUBERGER, translated and edited by CALLUM COATS.

* Eco-Technology Series Volume 4 - THE ENERGY EVOLUTION: by VIKTOR SCHAUBERGER, translated and edited by CALLUM COATS. 

* SACRED LIVING GEOMETRY: The Enlightened Environmental Theories of Viktor Schauberger - Double Video, Presented by CALLUM COATS.

* ON THE TRACK OF WATER'S SECRET: From Viktor Schauberger to Johann Grander, by Hans Kronberger & Siegbert Lattacher. 

* THE MESSAGE FROM WATER - Telling Us to Take A Look At Ourselves, by Masaru Emoto.

* MESSAGES FROM WATER (Vol. 2), by Masaru Emoto. 

* THE POWER OF LIMITS: Proportional Harmonies in Nature, Art, and Architecture, by Gyorgy Doczi. 

* THE OLD WAY OF SEEING, How Architecture Lost Its Magic (And How to Get It Back), by Jonathan Hale

IET-Community: Self-organizing flow technique - introduction to booklet

by IET http://www.iet-community.org/research/flowtechnique.html

Introduction
This report is an attempt to understand and learn from the ideas and inventions of the Austrian forester Viktor Schauberger. Viktor Schauberger already in the 1920s warned about environmental crisis, at a time at which it was not, as today, something recognized. During his lifetime, he encountered resistance and ridicule, and his perspective may still today be labelled as unconventional and unorthodox, although much of what he wrote about our handling of waters and forests today is more relevant than ever. As he wasn't an academic, but was more of a natural philosopher, he had trouble to communicate his ideas with contemporary scientists. In this report, we'll try to show how modern research in chaos and self-organizing systems give us a possibility to shed some new light on Vikor Schauberger, and perhaps establish a deeper understanding of the phenomena he described.

Vortex Water Systems

Vortex Water Systems

This is not new technology. It has been around for centuries. The Greeks first used it around 2000BC.

This is not a water softener. Nor is it Magic. This is: State-of-the-art Water Treatment for Rural or City applications.

Used for Many Applications - Residential, Agricultural, Commercial, and Industrial.

Benefits:

* A better tasting water.
* No more ugly stains on shower    walls and toilets.
* White clothes can be white again.
* Less soap and detergent required in    the laundry and dishwasher.
* Hard water spots and deposits    easier to clean - less chemicals    required to remove.
* Will not harm septic systems

 

 

Research and development of vortex water systems for rural private wells has been conducted in the field since 1998. Lab experiments and research are conducted in Malmo, Sweden by a team of researchers. Hundreds of systems are in operation in the United States, ranging in application from private wells to apartment buildings and mobile home parks. The systems are designed to require little to no scheduled maintenance. The nature of the problem water defines system design, which can be modified to achieve desired results. Field experience and lab experiments have provided positive results in the eradication of E.coli, algae, fungus, molds, anaerobic bacteria, coliform, cryptosporidium, and legionella. The vortex process places bacteria and viruses under high pressure (hydrocyclones) followed by a vacuum, which causes them to disintegrate.

 


http://www.sulis-health.co.uk/vs/links.shtml
 
One such is Dan Reese, who developed Vortex Water Systems in Texas, inspired by reading Alexandersson's Living Water. They are designed to solve the increasing problem of pollution of wells in the American South, by unwanted salts and minerals, and to restructure the water so that it feels smooth, uses less soap and tastes pure. The Vortex system has no moving parts or filters, does not use chemicals and is driven only by the force of the well pump. It was found that the system could be expanded to service as many as 76 homes from one well. A system is now being tested for removing mineral salts from a salt intrusion well, and a larger farm system to help with the problem of cotton rot and to use less water to grow the same amount of crops. These will be major breakthroughs for the industry.

 


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/viktorschaubergergroup/message/1076 

--- Curt Hallberg <[email protected]

The last two years I have been working with water purifyers utilising V. S. theories. Mostly it is Dan Reeses Vortex System I have tested and been trying to develop further. This has also lead to other vortex treaters for water.


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